http://www.westernrecorder.org/825.article. The original rules set down by Westcott &Hort arent consulted terribly often anymore. Thank you again for a wonderful and concise article, Ill be recommending it to many. Further, Westcott and Hort agreed that the common text (Byzantine text) had at its root a text that was as old as or older than their oldest manuscripts (Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus). Im going to re-quote something we looked at earlier. The second is the comparison of the Masoretic text to the Greek translation called the Septuagint (or LXX), which was written around 200-150 B.C. But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christby grace you have been saved and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness towards us in Christ Jesus. the Majority Texts (Textus Receptus), and . I believe there are a great number of such documents or manuscripts. I had concluded before reading this that the Byzantine texts are likely the more accurate ones, since the Alexandrian texts have far more frequent errors and deviations between the copies. The Textus Receptus below is designed to be usable in Word 97 or higher. We dont have to wonder whether God merely preserved His thoughts, or His ideas. Codex Alexandrius is a very interesting manuscript in that in the Gospels, its a Byzantine text largely, which means it agrees with the majority of manuscripts most of the time. Please explain to your readers the import of the perfect tense used here. Lets assume for the sake of argument that the Majority Text is essentially identical to the original. It was shockingly balanced, very respectful, and based upon facts. The following is regarding the Alexandrian text type manuscripts. Im planning to get an LSB when it comes out, and I too am looking forward to it. I say intentionally because in at least one place, theres no other reason to translate the way they did other than a desire to change the text. The Alexandrian text type will need little introduction because nearly all modern Bibles are based on the Alexandrian text type. However, their original work is still with us. (Please read John 15:5, 7, I Pet.1:23, 2 Pet.1:4, John 6:63) The mistake you have made in seeking to divorce the Living Word from the Written Word in the work of salvation is a grave error. Granted, unlike some of my brethren, I fully accept that the enduring words of God preserved in English can also be found in most translations, even the those that are Critical Text products but as one cannot separate the promise God made Abe from the word that Abe believed on, one cannot separate THE Word from the words of God that have occasioned and compelled our faith in Christ having done and doing what God said He would. Given its long history of transmission with very little change and the common sense idea that scribes will choose better manuscripts, I think that makes sense. Id also like to thank you for writing in a manner that is rather humble and identifying when youre putting forwards your opinion as well personally Ive always used the KJV, got saved using the KJV and have sought to know God better through the KJV etc, so when I started looking into this topic it was quite discouraging hearing/reading people absolutely castigating the Textus Receptus, saying its rubbish and is full of additions which werent part of the original text [speaker/author advocated critical text] it kind of made me rather depressed as it seemed as if everything I believed was based upon a lie and that the Bible which had gotten me through so many storms in life seemed to be shaky Honestly it truly was a stumbling block and something that Im still working through (planning on talking to my pastor about this whole topic haha~), so I can understand why the natural response for many Christians is to grow angry and condemn anyone who would seemingly attack the certainty of the Bible. I find the KJV Onlyists arguments to be extremely weak, to be honest, though itd be nice if that were the answer to this problem of textual and translational variation in Bibles. An inspired Bible that was not preserved would be little more than a tainted book of history and moral lessons. Remember, their #1 rule was earlier is better. http://www.jesusisprecious.org/bible/nkjv/alexandrian_corrupt_source.htm, The information in this article is to be greatly commended and respected, but far more, the humility from which it is written. Textus Receptus means "Received Text" and refers to the published Greek New Testament text that was used as the basis for Bible translations in the Reformation period. The Confessional Position Text: The Textus Receptus. Metzger translated these words as, Fool and knave, cant you leave the old reading alone, and not alter it! Another rendering: Untrained troublemaker, forgive the ancient [reading]; do not convert it. He re-wrote , erasing most of the correctors . But the word of our God stands forever.. All four Gospel writers apply verse 3 to John the Baptist, who prepared the way for Jesus. Its possible, but definitely not certain. 10 Because of this, the woman is morally obligated to have authority on her head, because of the angels. The whole passage so far has been talking about Jesus, who is the Word of God as in John 1:1. Koine Greek New Testament - Accented Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus . The NKJV reads: For this reason the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. Praise ye the LORD. One reason could be that something is always lost in translation. The authorities of the convent allowed me to possess myself of a third of these parchments, or about forty-three sheets, all the more readily as they were destined for the fire. Again, this is one of the longest articles on this website, but its so long because the topic is complex and our treatment of it fairly complete. The two definitely share similarities, but they definitely arent the same. If you dont believe in any form of preservation, were not going to end up with the same conclusions, no matter how long we talk. There were already ten major periods of persecution of Christians before Nicea: One of the most ruthless of these persecutions was that of Diocletian in the early 4th century. The crooked places shall be made straight In fact, it blatantly and grossly mistranslates at least one very important verse that will lead some into sin. The differences between the two texts are many and important. This is particularly interesting when one turns to theEditionum Differentiae(Appendix III) in the 27thedition of NTG, which lists (among other things) the differences between NA27 and NA25. It gets copied and ends up in other manuscripts, Once a variant or a new reading enters the tradition, showing that five important early manuscripts combine to produce a total of. NASB95 and NKJV are the two translations that I recommend, see my article on Bible translations for more detailed info on why. Medium = Byzantine Text type, characterized by near-identical form over 1000+ years, and most manuscripts are of this type, Long/paraphrase = Western Text type, characterized by its love of paraphrase is like the uncontrolled popular text of Homer. These comprise over 75% of all textual variants, which means over 75% of textual variants have no effect on anything whatsoever. We wont spend much time on these because the Westcott & Hort rules were more influential. The too lively satisfaction which I had displayed. But we proved to be gentle among you, as a nursing mother tenderly cares for her own children. there are only 2 streams of bible versions, the true text of the textus receptus (majority text) on which the king james version is based, and those which picked up the alexandrian manuscripts (minority text), the codex alexandrian, codex sinaiticus and codex vaticanus which have been shown to have deleted and changed many parts of the text and Thats definitely possible maybe even likely but by no means certain. Lets go through it one chunk at a time. Because if you apply the same reasoning to Messianic prophecies in Psalms, it will show that those texts actually apply to David, not Jesus, etc. But here again the principle cannot be applied mechanically. While indeed some of the favorite passages among my ilk are weak in conveying what Confessionalists say they do, some are quite clear, particularly Peter and Christs own statements to the longevity of His owm words, which would include any words of God unless He expressly stated otherwise. Part 2 focuses more on the actual methodology. The myth of Erasmus back translating is based on a misconstruction (to put it in the kindest possible light) of statements made by Erasmus in his Apologia addressed to Stunica of the Complutensian team, in his Annotations to the Apocalypse, the Book of Revelation, and in his replies to the criticisms of Lee. They use these to translate all . I must admit it took me 2 evenings to seriously digest the information, take notes, cross reference and meditate on the essay. I would very much like this short list. So in the text types of Homer, you have: Among scholars, theres little doubt that the medium text type of Homer is the original, while the short is the result of scholarly revision. It was a combination of primarily Westcott & Hotts work, along with two other Greek New Testaments. And all flesh shall see it together; But nowhere did God claim He would preserve it perfectly and without error. A sad fact of history is that when Christians are persecuted, copies of the Bible are usually caught in the crossfire. Thus, they felt free to ignore them (as weve already discussed). First, lets look at a passage that will become important to understanding these two verses. Therefore, it should come as no surprise that the scribes who did the copying occasionally made some mistakes. One thing i wanted to mention is i recently came into possession of the Eastern Orthodox Bible, New Testament. If you pick up any popular Bible (except the KJV and NKJV) its almost certainly translated primarily from the Alexandrian text type. But the principle remains that the Vaticanus scribe certainly wasnt top tier. Scrivener identifies 190 readings where the Authorized Version translators depart from Bezas Greek text, generally in maintaining the wording of the Bishops Bible and other earlier English translations. We have the promise that the Holy Spirit will guide us into all Truth (John 16:13), and so can indeed affirm that "Our Church . Now you have five copies in five different locations, but no original. Is there an English translation of the Septuagint? If you assume the mistakes are fairly randomly distributed, the Majority holds up quite well. Here are five reasons why a dogmatically-driven adherence to the Textus Receptus - Textus Receptus-Onlyism, one might . To understand why they didnt use any Byzantine readings, we need to look at their 3rd rule again: A reading combining two simple, alternative readings is later than the two readings comprising the combination. Further, remember that latter readings were ignored by Westcott & Hort. I am wondering why you say that it is a matter of less than 1% of the New Testament. Ive found this information in various books: He did but question, and who shall give a blow for a question? There one can observe that between NA25 and NA27, there were 397 changes in the Gospels, 119 in Acts, 149 in the Pauline Epistles, 46 in the General Epistles, and 29 in Revelation, for a total of740. So its possible that without the south and east falling to the Muslims and the West turning to Latin, the majority of manuscripts wouldnt be of a Byzantine Text type. the KJV], Scrivener in his reconstructed and edited text used as his starting point the Beza edition of 1598, identifying the places where the English text had different readings from the Greek. Why would Peter suddenly be talking about the Bible? 7. The name first appeared in an advertising blurb in the 1630s in a different Greek New Testament published by the Elzevirs, and uncle and his nephew. General Introduction: To the Reader of NETS. By an Alexandrian Church fathers own admission, manuscripts in Alexandria by 200 AD were already corrupt. Also, Im still waiting for you to say which text/manuscript you think is inerrant. and to offer a sacrifice according to what is said in the Law of the Lord, a pair of turtle-doves, or two young pigeons. I found a scribal error and did not want it passed down for the next 100 generations. So lets say one of Pauls letter arrives at your church and youre supposed to pass it on. Caleb Yunni, on 17 August 2020 - 02:22 PM, said: I think you have coded wrong number at Genesis 1:1 word "G1065" I think it should be "G1093"G1065 ge (e') prt.of emphasis or qualification. Further, we have relatively few Western text type manuscripts. God bless you, brother. The Alexandrian text is about 5% smaller than the Byzantine text, and there are some differences in words between the two texts. Further, the Bible doesnt live or abide because its a book. well need some words so It would be okay even if you were angry (though Im glad you arent), Im nearly impossible to offend. Further, you note, correctly of course, that the Bible doesnt save anyoneChrist and His work provide salvationyou, in exhaustion I hope and not in dishonesy, fail to deal with the fact that this offer of salvation is conveyed to us by Gods words or not at all. Thanks again! I just bought a World English Bible.This is where the World English Bible (also known as the WEB Bible) comes to the rescue. Let me say that again: The Textus Receptus got its name because of a marketing ploy. And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Do you really know for a fact what those churches were using during that period, when you have less than 1% of the evidence? Any thoughts on the New English Bible translation of the 1960s? In the 480-page edition of the Trinitarian Bible Society Textus Receptus this would amount to almost 34 pages, the equivalent of the final two books of the New Testament, Jude and Revelation (Thomas Strouse, Review of From the Mind of God to the Mind of Man, November 2000). I found it reasonably through. This consideration revives the view that the Homeric vulgate was in existence before the Alexandrian period [Such] compels us to assume a central, average, or vulgate text. The verses of Gods Word that clearly promise He will preserve His Word, you have twisted and misled people. I dont have particular references for that other than reading quotes of his letters to that regard here and there. 8 For man didnt come from woman, but woman from man. Some even go so far as to say that other Bibles/translations are heretical and you cant truly be saved with them. Notice, he specifically said the law. Youre copying it down, He taught English on CBC TV 'Let's Speak English'. (, 3rd generation: 8 correct copies, 7 incorrect copies (~1, 4th generation: 16 correct copies, 22 incorrect copies (~1, 5th generation: 32 correct copies, 60 incorrect copies (~1, Short = Alexandrian, reflecting scholarly revision, Medium = Widely believed to be the true/original because it maintained a near-identical form over 1000+ years, and most manuscripts are of this type. Read James 1:18. Perhaps you could address that in any amended versions or separately. The AV translators relied heavily upon the work of William Tyndale and other editions of the English Bible. Its easy to see how you could end up with a disproportionate number of copies with errors. Heres the same verse properly translated, in an (unfinished) translation thats fast becoming my favorite. WoW! The Textus Receptus book. Do you believe that there is no church in the whole world that actually has the preserved Word of God? Theres good reason to think its actually a very good document, and it aligns well with the Majority Text. You might think this based on empirical/research grounds, not on a confession of faith. You are saved by grace! . Devine guidance maybe? Psalms 100:5 (NASB): For the LORD is good, and His loving devotion endures forever; His faithfulness continues to all generations. Believing in Jesus Christ for salvation is the act of trusting Him, and depending on His ability to keep you (Acts 17:30; Mark 1:15; Luke 17:21; Acts 3:19; Acts 20:21; Acts 26:20). And thats not all the singular readings. The Majority Text isnt perfect, and there are places where adjustments need to be made based on the evidence. . The outstanding feature of family 35 is the consistency between manuscripts. The Ecclesiastical Text has a few nuances of meaning depending on which circles you run in, so which specific manuscript are you referring to? From this account, the accusation that it was found in a wastepaper basket/trash can is technically true, but is rather misleading. To be sure thats not politically correct, but thats what the passage is saying and the Bible is very consistent on this. Are you aware that the Received Text (Textus Receptus) is essentially a 16th century Critical Text? (I did also recommend the NKJV). 1.3 = Fixed Galatians onwards verses error. (The Masoretic text is the traditional Hebrew text, and contains far fewer textual variants than the New Testament.) Ive had an NIV Bible for a long time and stumbled across some KJV only preachers on youtube who challenged my translation. Further, such a text appears to prevail in the larger quantity of copies in Homer, Hippocrates, and the NT tradition. The Doctrine of Preservation of Scripture is the foundation problem that exists with those who question the authority of the Bible. In many modern renderings, Of example The individual words (plenary) have been preserved (Matthew 24:35; Psalm 12:6-7; I Peter 1:23). He used the mathematical structure of Greek to figure out which variants were the original using the Weston Hort as a reference. More recent manuscript findings have proved this wrong, but more on that later. I also cover the other major verses used to support the doctrine of preservation. You believe yourself, not the text. The case of using the Dead Sea Scrolls to modify the Masoretic text is no different. In the Gospels alone, Vaticanus has 197 particular readings, while Sinaiticus has 443. Again, the odds of all those scribes making the same error is vanishingly low. I believe in the Ecclesiastical Text, meaning that God never promised to preserve a nebulous number of manuscripts floating around in theological circles. 6 The words of the LORD are pure words; You might say, But that wouldnt happen.. The mistakes which the original transcriber made are of perpetual recurrence. The [fourth-century] text of Chrysostom and other Syrian [= Byzantine] fathers [is], must have had in the greater number of extant variations, The overwhelming majority of readings, almost all variants, and practically all the substantive variants in the text of the New Testament, The criticism of the Homeric epics proceeds on much the same line, The shorter form in Homer is considered to reflect Alexandrian critical know-how and. Scrivener in his reconstructed and edited text used as his starting point the Beza edition of 1598, identifying the places where the English text had different readings from the Greek. (And thats not including quotes by including the early church fathers). Many Christians who could not withstand the persecution handed over their Scriptures to the authorities to be publicly burned. The NKJV is one of two translations I recommend in my article on Bible translations. Besides the obvious problem with saying that God must do something, theres no basis for that assertion besides a few man-made creeds. Please notice the casual dismissal of the Byzantine text type by one of the most respected textual critics of our age. David, you start out with a possible assumption and elevate it to obstacles and odds that need to be overcome. In your mind there are too many variable and possibilities of human error. The grass withers, Whichever one is closer to the majority text. 20 He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you. However, well only concentrate on the two most influential. [See HortsIntroduction, page286, 373.]. Try shaping your theology to the words of God, instead of what you are now doing, and I believe you will get a better understanding of just Who our Lord is and His power to save, even whores and people like you and me. I suppose if you know where all the errors are, you might want to make them publicly known so that they can be corrected. The fact that the Byzantine Text type dominates the manuscript copies is proof of disproportionate copying. However important the early papyri, or a particular uncial, or a minuscule may be, there is no single manuscript or group or manuscripts that can be followed mechanically, even though certain combinations of witnesses may deserve a greater degree of confidence than others. Thank you for your labor of love for the body of Christ. (With a good chuckle. However, the antiquity of these manuscripts is no indication of reliability because a prominent church father in Alexandria testified that manuscripts were already corrupt by the third century. Comments made on Psalm 12:7 are either intentionally or mistakenly deceptive and misleading. Hort, Westcott and Hort, or Hort but cite as Westcott and Hort? It goes like this: Please imagine that you were a scribe charged with copying the New Testament. Eusebius, Church historian of the same era, recorded that many Scriptures were burned during the Diocletian persecution. Consequently, their New Testament relied heavily on the two earliest (nearly) complete manuscripts we have: Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus, which well look at in detail shortly, Since these were the two oldest (nearly) complete texts available at the time, Westcott & Hort gave them tremendous weight. While the name was originally only applied to the 1633 printing of Elzevirs Greek text, it eventually came to include all of them. Thats pure theory without other evidence, but its interesting. (1793-1851), who had first moved away from relying on the Textus Receptus, Tischendorf.Downloads - Bible SupportMajority Text vs.Critical Text vs. Again, well go back to Westcott & Hort because they did the original work that virtually all modern New Testament translations are based on. It was a printed text, not a hand-copied manuscript, created in the 15th century to fill the need for a textually accurate Greek New Testament. The Codex Vaticanus also contains several of the deuterocanonical books, namely: the Book of Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus (Sirach), Judith, Tobit, Baruch, and the Letter to Jeremiah. 6 The voice said, Cry out! My question is around a possible assumption: 2. dolos (127 times in the NT) will be consistently rendered as slave. No, a prophetic application is what the verse is about, and thus the Confessional Bibliogist is correct in using that way. Some of these translations included Luther's German Bible, William Tyndale's English translation, as well as the King James Version. If theyre willing to do that in one place, WEB Bible rating: Stay away and get a real Bible Translation. More on that in a moment. It might be there, but I spent all my time looking perfect preservation scriptures not preservation in general, so Id have to look again. The earliest Septuagint manuscripts are from the 2nd century BC. There is a doctrinal position that is held by many theologians which can be summarized with this statement: We can no more touch the preserved Word of God than we can the incarnate Christ. From your following statement, it seems clear that this is the position you take. The English translations of Wycliffe compared to Tyndales would show this also. This might be surprising to hear after what youve just read, but you might be right. The Pharisees did not challenge Him on the accuracy of His quote. (Like the Johannine Comma, which the Majority text doesnt include). The Textus Receptus is the textual basis behind KJV and NKJV. No Scholar . Persecution under Marcus Aurelius (161-180). Also study the practice of the Muslims in burning countless Bibles as they advanced. Typically, these variants are found only in a single manuscript, or in a small group of manuscripts from one small part of the world. A womans long hair is the symbol of authority, and notice that feminists almost universally have short(er) hair. The Bibles authority is only as great as our confidence in its reliability. Kategorie. Lets start with the doctrine of the preservation of Scripture: A. Hort and first published in 1881, with numerous reprints in the century since. Only the reading which best satisfies the requirements of both external and internal criteria can be original. They also discounted the entire Byzantine text type based on an assumption which has now been proved wrong. As you may remember, both Aland and Westcott & Hort had trouble sticking to their rules (except older is better). This page has been accessed 19,382 times. I know what you will say, because its your go-to answer to all your critics, Show me the inerrant text! So you start with the human evidence, not with faith in Gods promises. No words and we never hear the gospel, and it is in His words that Gods truth to us regarding Jesus Christ is conveyedand He says He has put His words above His very name. But I would give them all up to dispel the confusion and go back to studying the original languages, which I use Jewish-English, an LXX-English translation, and a lexicon to do. There are only two reasons for this: (1) its nearly complete, (2) the older is better mantra. So Sir Constant held counsel in his troubled heart, while the smooth voice spoke on as the path descended steeply to the lake-side, and the whole world was gray as the speakers cloak. This is the best Ive read on this topic so far. Died at Toronto. But I have met with many whose assurance rested upon strange visions and signs which might be but the likeness of their thoughts and hopes, even as the mirage that shows water in the desert. If the basis of your faith is the Westminster Confession of Faith, I would humbly suggest you move to a firmer foundation. Again, Bezas 1598 text formed much but definitely not all of the basis for the KJV. 5. I think you are grossly mistaken about the WEBs translation of 1 Cor 11:10. The first manuscripts were copied onto either papyrus (ancient paper) or parchment (animal skins). However, the originals were copied many, many times. The claim seems very unlikely though because Estiennes Greek Text is very close to Erasmus but its possible. Thank you for this wonderful, well informed article. For example, around AD 300, Diocletian burned thousands of Bibles. I recommend the version sold by New England Bible Sales for around $25. He put the universal Catholic epistles before Pauls so the beginning and ending letters of all of the epistles would form a mathematical pattern. You can double check me by looking at Psalm 12:7 in an interlinear Bible. The letter of Scripture has been preserved, The Textus Receptus is Latin for Received Text, The Elzevir text is practically a reprint of the text of Beza 1565with about, Throughout Europe the Elzevir editions came to occupy a place of honor, and, 190 readings where the Authorized Version translators depart from Bezas Greek text, the translators of the King James Version did not follow exclusively any single printed edition of the New Testament in Greek, Erasmus adjusted the text in many places to correspond with readings found in the Vulgate, Byzantinetext, it differs in nearly 2000 readings from the standard form of that text-type, The AV [Authorized Version, i.e. By Bakershalfdozen July 14, 2008 in The Bible (KJV) Share More sharing options. The first document to be called Textus Receptus was the 1633 printing of the Elzevir Greek New Testament, which was substantially identical to the 1565 version of Bezas Greek New Testament. This position takes its name from where it starts: a confession of faith. I think that it is time for the WEB to pick up the mantle of the ASV. I knew basically nothing about Textual Criticism before reading this. How many such readings are there? It is easier to read than the ASV, yet the WEB stays close to the Rock of Biblical Honesty. However, you havent answered my question as you said you would, even in a short form as I did your questions. The authors name is not listed. He also was responsible for the publication of Ruth in the Biblia Hebraica Quinta: General Introduction and Megilloth fascicle. Aland rule #6: Furthermore, manuscripts should be weighed, not counted, and the peculiar traits of each manuscript should be duly considered. By evidence, I mean quotations from the early church fathers and looking at the versional manuscripts (translations). The Bible: 66 books vs 73 and Why (the Apocrypha Explained), Lobegott Friedrich Constantin (von) Tischendorf, You can read Tischendorfs entire account of finding it in his own words here. Is there a translation that uses a blend of the Critical Text and the Majority Text? How can I claim modern Bibles (well, the Greek/Hebrew from which they are translated) are entirely inerrant unless I have an inerrant text to translate from? The other six occurrences in 1 Corinthians, including verse 10, all refer to the head as the body part that rests on the shoulders. In the last ~140 years since the Westcott & Hort 1881 Critical Text, weve discovered Papyri from the 300s, 200s, and even a few from the 100s. Challenged my translation it was a combination of primarily Westcott & Hort arent terribly. Would Peter suddenly be talking about Jesus, who is the Westminster of... 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