I knew every bully and weird kid in my town, no way I stop my bike for those guys in the woods, even at 8 I had instincts. i truly loathe him. If he raped them, there should have been anal tearing at the very least, but also DNA if no condom was used. If the DNA evidence was THAT strong 7 years ago, do you think there would not have been an arrest. Lol Dodia, I still read wtbfh as what the butt fuck henry in my head! Damien Echols Sounds True, Jul 14, 2020 - Body, Mind & Spirit - 288 pages 0 Reviews Reviews aren't verified, but Google checks for and removes fake content when it's identified Learn to call. (This comment is a reply to Chriss comment left on Aug. 23, 2011 @ 5:28am.). I just dont understand where Jason Baldwin fits in anywhere in this BESIDES being friends with Damien. he seems to be getting along just fine to me. [Ill give you a hint, you wont]. ). While I respect all walks of life and the lifestyles of others I must say I loathe being labeled by some individuals as in this category. Great I believe he thought he could get the reward money that was being offered for information on the crime while downplaying his role in it and wound up having to reluctantly admit more and more of his culpability as time went on. Echols when on trial did every thing he could to get convicted besides saying he did it. Well Where is the blood sample? If he makes it a year, Ill be surprised. While they should have questioned Hobbs, its also important to note that none of his wifes relatives came forward any of the abuse theyve alleged in their declarations signed in 2009. The police were completely incompetent in theinvestigationand it became obvious they didnt even have REAL investigators on the scenejust some country, backwoods, hill-billy cops that have ZEROexperiencein such crime scenes. (LogOut/ Then there is Terry Hobbs he acted weird as hell too, but it didnt seem to raise any suspicions from the West Memphis police either, I guess he didnt wear enough black. If you want to argue that it isnt Hobbs because we used to think it was the Bojangles guy (*who it could still be, who knows) or J. I am of the opinion that his entire confession, by todays standards, is not admissible in his own case, muchless bringing it before the judge in the other case. Who comes out 20 years later and says they lied under oath just to look cool now? suggest that he was in anyway an upstanding citizen. welcomed to the resting place/heaven/Gods home to meet up with all the That's because . Some are very chilling. Its all about a plain old cult. His handlers probably wont let him near a microphone. ? Bye. I watched him talk about esoteric philosophy on some show Midnight Gospel and he seemed like a nice enough guy. It all depends on what the courts of Arkansas want to do depending on what type of lawsuit or hearing theyve got on the docket concerning that case. All of your opinions are based on hearsay testimonies from witnesses who have openly admitted to perjury. Ive watched this case unfold since May 6, heard,seen, and read enough to be as qualified, if not more, than any who comment here. He was on death row under 23 hours per day lockdown at the Varner Supermax. Like most WM3 supporters you assume that I am focusing on their physical appearance Far from it as I was a black clothes wearing metalhead when I was a a teen. Teenagers think this way which is why they get caught up in situations like this. Origin: Made in the USA or Imported. I dont think we will because Echols isnt stupid and knows how to handle fame. places, enjoy a trip to Disney world, while Jessie struggles to find Will Wayne Williams be released? Whats wrong reyonlds boy ? The justice system is impressively lax on child killers this year. What did the autopsy reports conclude? Charles Manson on the other hand is openly a massive fucking nut job and was directly linked to several murders. In a nutshell, he fell in love with a girl who played around with the occult. One day when you die, no one remember your name, you have never made a difference in society,or in anybodys life. Paradise Lost is to the Robin Hood Hills murders as Loose Change is to 9/11. Mr Byers wife seemed to be taking drugs for the same things However, I am not at all convinced that any of the regular suspects (Byers, Hobbs, Bojangles, etc.) I worked for a law firm there are issues that simple every day people dont see and dont understand. One thing Im thing Im sure of after reading about this case. HBO has its take, believers of the justice system have theirs. He is just a normal dude, slightly nerdy and into goth culture. I hate how everybody watches the documentaries and start saying stuff like you need to do more research, they are innocent and no evidence or my favorite you cant take Jesses coerced confession seriously he is retarted blah blah The other two boys were. Damien Echols, fdd Michael Wayne Hutchison den 11 december 1974, var en av tre ungdomar som den 19 mars 1994 dmdes fr mord i ett rttsfall som vckte stort uppseende. if all of those millions of dollars couldnt find anyone other than them that met the criteria i used then you are stupid if you say they are innocent. not conducive to maintaining a healthy lifestyle, those on death row Anyways, I do support the WM3 but I would like someone on her who does not to look a little into Terry Hobbs sexually violent background and tell me which you would prefer to leave your child with. MAYBE THE SHOE LACE WAS STEVIES THERES A REASON THAT HAIR WAS ON ONE OF THE SHOE LACES IF IT WAS STEVIES THEY STAYED IN SAME HOUSE, I BELIEVED DAMIEN WAS INNOCENT BUT IM NOT SO SURE RECENTLY, Why did misskelley confess 6 times, why did Echols grasp at an alibi that had no consistency, why does Echols consistently exaggerate or completely make up false truths. God help the kids that live near these murderers. and gone, never to see the sun rise or set, never to feel the comfort of Echols may or may not have committed the West Memphis murders. But in the same token the skewing of facts by the movie is obvious also, look at making a murderer, Stephen Avery is said to be innocent, but the movie left out a lot of facts to push this idea. I thank GOD for the few people that seen something wrong with this trial/convictions to raise attention that grew into the 10s of thousands of supportersthat forced the liars involved with this case to offer a plea deal. I think a good place to start is the location and the people that live there. I like to use this case, among other reasons, to show that the WM3 supporters are just as zealous and intolerant as they claim their detractors to be. I supported them and basically helped put them back on the street and Im having a hard time because not only did I support it but many people who became supporters took my word for it and delved into the case by what was told to them by ME who btw believed a documentary that was well put together,and I think maybe the poor little boys raised dirt poor and misfits were accused for that reason alone and being adopted as a child I could relate to that because that was the time when adoption was looked down upon and I was the only child in school/anywhere that I knew of who was an adoptee. EXECUTE! that the God fearing Church going people of this town can imagine and verbalise I dont mean like the correct houror what time of night but the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOON and NIGHT. These are raw facts. Im new to this case, and its pretty clear to me that they are all three still technically guilty-so Im not a supporter However, as the spouse of a prosecutor I can tell you, that an Alford plea which specifically allows the accused to maintain and assert their innocence while accepting punishment as likely is hardly a feather in a prosecutors cap. You gather facts and information from difference sources and report on them through your blog. Seriously, he was the first parent to start looking for their kid that evening, but the last to call the police. While supporters yell that the three could not have done the crime as Recently, Hicks has been fighting for access to her son's property and other evidence in the case. One simple comment the defense attorney said had me convinced theyre innocent. This tells us that the man can be bought. You are aware that Damien Echols wrote twice that he was HOMICIDAL on his SS disability forum just weeks before killing the little boys. The WMPD took a recorded statement from Byers on May 19, 1993, yet that wasnt enough for supporters when he was their go to suspect. These boys were railroaded, plain ans simple. Damien Echols very well might be weird, sick, dark, crazy or what ever else, but the burden of proof should have been on the prosecution & it wasnt. trench is spot on, and if he wasnt, there would be evidence compiling to exonerate them instead of trying to get a lame ass, chicken crap petition movement going. PATHETIC!!!!! If you dont see the difference, youre nuttier than Al. Sorry, the facts are very ugly. Throughout the. He has more love in his heart than you guys will ever allow yourselves to see. The boys had been hogtied with their own shoelaces, sexually mutilated and physically assaulted before being killed. I find it hard to believe that someone capable and sick enough to commit such an act could possibly contain himself for so long, unless he were incarcerated, or dead. Shut up for five minutes so we can work this thing out. im an echols and he did nothing wrong thats all a lie and you know it. Heiglian dialectic is the technique the 1% Anyway, I remember a time when all the evidence pointed to Mark Byers or the mysterious guy from Bojangles. As for his mental state, based on the 500-page report on his mental history and his various diagnoses from various mental institutions over the years, I believe Echols mental issues are of the kind and magnitude that can be exacerbated by ones surroundings, but not caused by them. They were irresponsible and a lot of gullible people refuse to do any research and just started saying the WM3 were innocent. Still confessed after the trial was over. The kids were in and around the the Hobbs house, that hair could have gotten there in any number of ways besides Hobbs being the killer. And the whole school (including the teachers) knew, and just laughed and said oh, them old hick boys! And do you know how many kids in any given high school in America like to shock people by talking about murder and mayhem, and wear black all the time? She is a child killer and because her daddy was an ex homicide detective she knew how to cover her tracks!!!!! The witnesses who claimed to have seen Hobbs with the boys also failed forward. Believe what you want, but please do sum actually research people. They have DNA evidence that proves it could not have been him. Nicholas, these things you claim to be facts I think is a load of BS, just like you think what I believe to be true to be BS. A HUGE EX-SUPPORTER! His ex-girlfriend Domini Teer, was also pregnant with his son, Damien Seth, when he was arrested. They released a man I saw on the news the other day for murder up north. No need to castrate one to hurt him real bad. The Satanic connectionbrought up by the original prosecutorsshould not be dismissed. suffering PST or just a pill popper? what is going through a persons mind to do so? According to his Goodreads page, he has written as many as eight. Just because a bunch of celebrities take up a cause it doesnt make them right. If his IQ was indeed 72, it is fair to assume he was clueless of his right to remain silent and have legal reps present. Tuesday, July 14, 2020 - 7:00pm. Either way, I find no real reason to argue with you but you seem to feel a lot of hostility towards me because I brought up Terry Hobbs in an online comment post. In this podcast, Sounds True founder Tami Simon speaks with Damien about his forthcoming book, Angels and Archangels, which offers us a practical set of tool. Poor pathetic dude probably thinks now that killing children really gave him special powers because (ta daaa) hes famous. Did the 3 convicted murders describe in detail how they committed the murders? ability to tell the truth about much, the one thing I do believe is his grief Its actually scary and infuriating how *relatively* often that police coerce confessions through intimidation tactics, from people who are actually not guilty. Ive read the first 103 pages of the 500, thus far. Thats all you got? you accuse trench of the same thing that your ridiculous wm3 have done. BTW, I used to be one of their supporters, as well. Why in heavens name was there not a police search of those woods the night the boys went missing? YOu said everything I wanted to say. He has been living a largely private life, unlike Echols and Baldwin. P.S. However, Truth be told its convienent wrapping paper designed for mass consumption. BECAUSE THEY PLED GUILTY!!!! The guards beat him. So, why even bother to investigate when a person is found murdered. There was NO physical evidence AT ALL pointing to those teenagers. Notice I made no mention of anything even remotely occult related. Until then, when you almost did. But above all a human being who no longer chooses willful ignorance. I guess their choice to play it cool (as seen in another you-tube video with Damien and Echols talking about who follows who) was their own downfall if they are truly innocent. I use to be a West Memphis supporter and a HUGE Johnny Depp fan. Those angry, edgy, artists are my people too. Your a fukn robot. I think there are people who helped the perpetrators cover this crime up which is why there was less evidence of the WM3 being perpetrators of this crime than there could have been. Her son, Aaron, was friends with the victims, and he claimed for a time to have witnessed the murders, but his statements . Ha! If the supporters keep up with trying to get their names cleared, its going to backfire on them. because hutchison was dying? Just look it up!! Did they do it ? All the while relishing the attention good or bad he was getting by making stupid jokes about wanting to be famous or infamous as the West Memphis boogeyman!? Hell be able to keep up the facade as long as he deems it necessary. Am I wrong to think that they had the ability to get these in 1993? Echols is NOT presented in a favorable light in the original documentary. bojangles? I know nothing about psychology and psychiatry, but doesnt that meanitmight be completely out of his hands? Seems a bit , oh, I dont know, childish for a crime reporter. A complete joke that the phone records could not be obtained. You are just as ignorant as the fucking cops who coerced people into testifying against them. Theres something called the common law that supports damages for wrongs done to people by others. Damien Echols spent 18 years facing execution after being wrongly convicted of a triple child killing. Mark Byers (whos an attention craving loony) then I just have a few questions Whats your explanation for Terry Hobbs being the last person to be seen with the boys but yet lying about it? Info is info facts are facts. Im just a guy with a website and an opinion. So, Hobbs mustve stripped them, killed them and taken them to the Woods. The film is currently in post-production. Its all perfectly fucking legal by the way. can we somehow get in touch with mr bojangles and have him comment on here? Sorry but DNA evidence proves his innocence you jackass. of Echols, Baldwin and Misskelly. In fact, its so rarely used partly because a prosecutor never, and I mean NEVER accepts that deal if they have dont doubt their case. A teenager bragging about shit is hardly a reliable source for truth. I meant to say conspiracy theorists and zealots. How long can he go on playing victim now that he doesnt have to? Were the hog ties all tied differently on each victim ? The thing about people, Tom, is that they can have a wide degree of reactions to things like being falsely accused of murder. Circumstantial evidence is legal evidence NUMBNUTZ. normal for any teenager to question life and all its mystery. No one that significant that I can think of, or remember about. who else had the motive, the means, the opportunity? Have you ever met Damien/Jason/Jesse????? Why did Jessie confess multiple times? By Rachel Monroe Published: Aug 1, 2019 GROVE PASHLEY Lorri Davis agonized over the first letter she. Ill give him that. Damien Echols' legal team will be back inside an Arkansas courtroom this summer. Or the Jacoby guy who is friends with Hobbs and still says hes lying? Prone to violence, filled with rage,ego-maniacal, and a misconceived persecution complex. I watch Paradise Lost frequently and found nothing at all that could even convince me they were guilty at the very start! You can not tell one is guilty because he fits the profile of a school shooter You need a proof, not feelingsThats it. I dont want to debate but I am not out to prove any ones innocence. Plus hes a master manipulator. Thank you so much for taking the time to post it. Leave them alone. No one hears you! I feel like, respectfully, youre extremely ignorant as to how coerced confessions work and how surprisingly easy it is to get them. Id be interested in knowing what you think. In some ways I see Damien as cold, calculated and disturbed. All of the adds up to just as much circumstantial evidence that he killed the boys as their is that the WM3 killed them in fact the fibers and knife make for more physical evidence than there is that the WM3 did it. Is there any recorded testimony of the witnesses or people who say they heard him talk about? If they could not, then the state would have had no reason to require releases (which, by the way, would never hold up if and when the WM3 actually were proven innocent). Someone should have been able to say, Hey Jerry? You are all naive. Hi, everyone, I have a question. YALL NEED TO RESEARCHNO EVIDENCE ALL THE EVIDENCE POINTS TOWARD TERRY HOBBSWHATEVIDENCE POINTS TOWARD DAMIEN?? Awesome, so not only have we established your argument is based on stereotypes, but now it can be confirmed that it is also made on baseless assertions. Yet, insofar as Damien Echols, James Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley are concerned, the case is closed. Yes, JEFF, it DOES COST MORE ON AVERAGE TO EXECUTE. Rather than trying to convince everyone he was superior he preyed upon their emotions and most of you have fallen for it hook line and sinker. Jeffrey Dahmer the state proved their case. I think the point was being made about the laziness or sheer incompetence of those that should have done a more thorough investigation. I cant even guess who did it . PEOPLE PLEAD GUILTY WHEN THEY ARENT ALL THE TIME, JEFF. tell me that. Not animals, people. Of course police could get him to say whatever he wanted, especially when they told him if he did they would buy his dad a new truck. Opportunity: if the accused had a reliable alibi in 1993, then we wouldnt be talking about them right now. The way they committed the crime was clever hence the boys were found in water. It comes out in stores this spring, but you can pre-order it through my website here: damienechols.com Thank you for your support! Celebrities are merely in a position to help voice injustice in that cases like these are able to be re-opened. Nor, he has shared the details about his educational background. Slightly nerdy and into goth culture the occult Echols, James Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley are concerned, the?! 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